have you ever thought that maybe it's
你有没有想过，也许这不是
not a psychic experience maybe you're
一种心灵体验，也许你
not talking to the dead we have clients
不是在和死者说话，我们的客户
that have had like a thousand readings
in a Year Kim says my son passed away
在一年内进行了大约一千次阅读，金说我儿子去世了，
Kim there's something a little bit
金
suspect in my mind how many people over
在我的脑海里有一些有点可疑的东西 一年来，很多人
the year have used your services over
使用你们的服务超过
100,000 I'm not going to say you've got
100,000 我不会说您患有与
a pregnancy related condition but it's
怀孕相关的疾病，但
something like endometriosis you're
您担心的是子宫内膜异位症之类的东西，
worrying about it aren't you yeah yeah I
不是吗，是的，我
actually would love it to be true mhm
实际上很希望它是 真的，嗯，
how do we prove to the audience just got
我们如何向观众证明刚刚接到
a call from Chris was not entirely happy
克里斯的电话，
with how the filming's gone so far are
对到目前为止的拍摄进展并不完全满意，
we ready sorry can turn it off can you
我们准备好了吗，抱歉，可以关掉它，你可以
turn the camera off please it's
关掉摄像机吗，拜托，
okay in this episode of Life uncovered
在这一集《揭秘的生活》中没关系，
I'm meeting celebrity psychic Chris
我 我正在与名人通灵者克里斯·
Riley Chris spends his days doing
莱利 (Chris Riley) 会面 克里斯每天都会亲自
onetoone psychic readings with clients
与客户进行一对一的通灵解读
in person and Via Zoom he also speaks to
，他还通过 Zoom 与 Facebook 和 Instagram 上的直播与
his 600,000 followers and celebrity fans
他的 600,000 名粉丝和名人粉丝交谈，
via live streams on Facebook and
Instagram all of which earn him a lot of
money Chris predicts potential romances
克里斯预测，所有这些都为他赚了很多钱 潜在的恋情
exciting career changes and he can even
令人兴奋的职业变化，他甚至可以
speak with lost loved ones and while I
与失去的亲人交谈，虽然我很
appreciate this must offer a lot of
欣赏这一定会给那些亲自
comfort to people searching for answers
寻找答案的人带来很大的安慰，但
personally I'm on the fence I don't
我持观望态度，我
quite understand how it's scientifically
不太明白从科学角度来说如何
possible to speak to dead people so I
可能与他们交谈 死去的人，所以我
find it a little hard to believe I'm
觉得有点难以相信我
going to Essex to spend time with Chris
要去埃塞克斯和克里斯共度时光，
and even get my very own psychic reading
甚至得到我自己的通灵读物
how you doing nice to meet you where do
你很高兴见到你我们从哪里
we start my dad's mom and dad my
开始我爸爸的妈妈和爸爸我的
granddad I was very close to when was
爷爷我是 非常接近
your first sensing that you had um
你第一次感觉到你有
psychic abilities when I was about 8
灵能力的时候，当时我大约8
years old I predicted a Breakin at home
岁，我预测家里会发生破坏，
no one listened to me did your parents
没有人听我的话，你的父母
believe you after that no do your
相信你吗？
parents believe you now if you no they
如果你不相信，你的父母现在相信你吗？
don't okay I've had to deal with a lot
不好吧，
through through having what I do so it
通过我所做的事情，我不得不处理很多事情，所以对于
might seem to someone from the outside
外界的人来说，这可能是
world like oh it's it's a blessing it's
一种祝福，这
not that easy it's a blessing and it's a
并不容易，这是一种祝福，也是一种
curse so um you like cats yeah five cats
诅咒，所以嗯，你喜欢 猫 是的，五只猫，
can you interact with animals I've never
你能和动物互动吗？我从来没有真正
really tried one cat the one out there
尝试过一只猫，那只猫，
Simba he was really poly and I sort of
辛巴，他真的是多，我有点
like put my hand across him and I
喜欢把手放在他身上，我
thought there's like bugs in his tummy
以为他肚子里有虫子，
and they found parasites in his stomach
他们在里面发现了寄生虫 他的胃
and stuff chunk boy now this is Simba I
和东西大块男孩现在这是辛巴我
just knew like something's not right
只知道
with stomach and thenan you kind of
胃有点不对劲然后你
basically put your hand over feel CU I
基本上把手放在上面感觉CU我
feel energy can you find out if people
感觉能量你能查出人们是否
have cancer and stuff like I feel like I
患有癌症之类的东西我感觉我
sense things in the body and when I was
感觉到 身体里的东西，当我
about 16 17 and I've not been doing it
大约 16 17 岁的时候，我没有这样做
that long then I went to a client in
那么久，然后我亲自去找一位客户，
person it was an older lady during the
在女儿读书期间，这是一位年长的女士，
daughter's reading I said is your mom
我说你妈妈
been to hospital and she said yeah she
去过医院，她说是的 她
said but I don't know what's wrong with
说，但我不知道她出了什么问题，
her and I thought okay and I didn't say
我想好吧，我
anything my mind was just drawn to the
什么也没说，我的注意力只是被胃吸引了，
stomach it was very small like the size
它很小，就像
of a pee and she pressed it out of me
小便一样大，她把它从我身上压了出来，
and I told her which you said to her
我 告诉她你对她说的话，
your mom I said I feel a cancer
你妈妈我说我感觉有
condition and um she phoned me to say
癌症，嗯她打电话给我说
mom had been for a test and and
妈妈做了检查并被
diagnosed with stomach cancer wow how
诊断出患有胃癌哇
many people do you think over the year
你认为这一年有多少人
have used your services probably 100
可能使用过你的服务 100
over 100,000 readings 100,000 read, at
超过 100,000 次阅读 100,000 次阅读，
least we have clients that have had like
至少我们的客户
a thousand readings in a year what's a
在一年内获得了大约 1000 次阅读
kind of a usual message that you'll get
你会从你认识的人那里得到一种常见的信息
from somebody you know readings are
阅读量在
there what's Chris's website does he do
那里 克里斯的网站是什么 他
face to face is there any oneto ones
面对面做的事情 有没有一对一的
Chris has got a massive waiting list you
克里斯有一个庞大的等待名单，你
know and I had people actually coming
知道，我有人
through on eBay that was the first where
在 eBay 上找到了，这是第一个
it started you know these readings were
开始的地方，你知道这些读数是
2 three 45 from about the age of
2 三 45 从大约
192 it was full-time I then had so much
192 岁开始，这是全职我 然后
work I took on a team of readers that
我在一个读者团队中承担了很多工作，他们在
worked worked all over working all over
the world to deal with people's texts
世界各地工作，处理人们的短信
and phone calls how much is a reading so
和电话，一次阅读的费用各不
varies so anything varies in in price
相同，所以任何价格不同的东西都
could be anything from £1 to 30 yeah
可以从 1 英镑到 1 英镑不等。 30 是的，
that that's like potentially 300,000 I
这就像潜在的 300,000 我
that's a lot of cash monies isn't it not
那是很多现金，不是吗？数
like millions of
百万
pounds must be like a decent amount of
英镑一定是一笔相当可观的
cash like I've done I've done well but
现金，就像我所做的那样，我做得很好，但
I've worked hard to understand Chris's
我已经努力理解克里斯的意思
business a bit more I amassed myself in
我在他的世界里聚集了自己，
his world and joined them on various
并加入了他们的各种
psychic activities first up was a
通灵活动，首先是
podcast recording in his home Studio
在他家工作室里录制的播客，
nice to hear yeah you go there how did
很高兴听到，是的，你去那里，
you first discover the angels I was born
你是怎么第一次发现天使的，我生来就有
with psychic gifts I could see spirit
我能看到的通灵天赋 精神
animals and angels all of these amazing
动物和天使所有这些令人惊奇的
beings so looking at these who's Paul by
生物所以看看这些谁是保罗顺便说一下
the way that is um her ex-husband
她的前夫
okay all I'm doing is just like drawing
好吧我所做的只是画
a
一个
circle and just tell me what you feel
圆圈然后告诉我你的感受
Kim says my son passed away Kim I don't
金说我儿子去世了 金，我不
know why I feel that there's something a
知道为什么我觉得我脑子里有一些东西
little bit um suspicious or suspect in
有点可疑或可疑，
my mind tell me yes tell me no there's
告诉我是的，告诉我不，
something here talking about a cancer
这里有一些东西在谈论
condition who is an yeah I can feel
癌症，是的，我能感觉到
something so what is the something
一些东西，那么能量是什么？
energy so just take a nice deep breath
所以，深吸一口气，
in open your mind
to the divine
向神圣的
Brenda will I be in my new home soon you
布伦达敞开你的心扉，我很快就会在我的新家了，你
have the world card the world card talks
有世界卡，世界卡谈论
all about change propertywise it looks
所有关于改变财产的事情，它看起来
like a bungalow that is um accessible do
像一栋平房，嗯，
you go to the dentist I do right have
你可以去吗？ 牙医，我做对了，
you just been or something you got two
你刚刚去过吗，或者你有两个
that you need to watch out watch out
需要注意的事情，
yeah
是的，
wow that like it's hit me straight away
哇，就像它立刻击中了我，
why do you think I don't feel as much
为什么你认为我不觉得
the bowl is really clever it knows where
这个碗真的很聪明，它知道
to put the
在哪里 投入
energy I feel chilled now yeah it was a
精力，我现在感到很冷，是的，这是一次
very nice experience so thank you so
非常好的经历，所以非常感谢您的
much for joining and I'll see you soon
加入，我很快就会见到您，
take care bye look at that bed wow that
照顾好，看看那张床，哇，太
is incredible thank you some people who
不可思议了，谢谢一些
watch this will they won't believe that
观看此内容的人，他们会的。 不相信
it's possible I guess that's okay that's
这是可能的 我想那没关系 那
that's absolutely fine you know I have
绝对没问题 你知道我对
no issue with someone that doesn't
不
believe in it that's okay I actually
相信它的人没有任何问题 那没关系 我实际上
would love this to be I'd love it to be
很希望这是真的 我很希望它是
true genuinely so how how do we prove to
真实的 所以怎么办 我们向
the audience you know what I mean I know
观众证明，你知道我的意思，我知道
you're saying you don't need to prove
你是说你不需要证明，
but obviously would make life easier if
但如果
you could just prove I've done well
你能证明我已经做得
enough already I have a reputation for a
足够好，显然会让生活变得更轻松，我有一个声誉是有
reason so you don't feel the need to
原因的，所以你 不觉得需要
prove need to prove it to people where
证明需要向人们证明它
is it coming from you know is it from a
从哪里来你知道它来自
higher power is it you know like how is
更高的力量吗你知道它是如何
it got to you I have no idea have you
影响到你的我不知道你
ever thought that maybe it's not a
是否想过也许它不是 一种
psychic experience maybe you're not
心灵体验，也许你不是在和
talking to the dead you know what what
死人说话，你知道
have I ever thought oh it might not be
我曾经想过什么，哦，它可能不是
real
真实的，
no how come because of the I mean it's
不知道为什么会这样，因为我的意思是，已经
been 12 years or so I suppose the the
过去了 12 年左右，我想
experiences I've had that I've witnessed
我所经历的经历 我亲眼目睹了
the lives that I suppose have been
我认为已经
changed I guess mhm I'm excited to go in
改变的生活，我想嗯，我很高兴能开上
the
rangy the Range Rover I've had three
那辆路虎揽胜，我已经拥有了三辆，
this is my third one your third
这是我的第三辆，你的第三
one to find out more about how Chris
辆，以了解更多关于克里斯如何
carries out his readings I joined him
执行他的任务
and assistant Verity as they went out
当他和助理维里蒂出去
for dinner so when you start to focus on
吃晚饭时，我加入了他的阅读，所以当你开始关注
somebody what
某人时，
happens in your mind a feeling or
你脑海中会发生什么，一种感觉或
something would come so can be anything
某件事会出现，所以可以是任何东西，
so you're kind of sitting there and you
所以你有点坐在那里，你
get like a kind of do you have to like
会变得像一种 你是否必须喜欢
lock eyes with them or they just have to
与他们四目相对，或者
be in the presence if someone wants a
如果有人想要阅读，他们就必须在场，
reading it's like an open
这就像一个公开
invitation Vegas
邀请维加斯
here I was picking up stuff off her
在这里我从她那里捡到了东西是的
yeah you were what did you pick up I was
你就是你捡到的东西我很
intrigued to see if Chris could do a
感兴趣 看看克里斯是否可以
spontaneous reading for the waitress so
为女服务员自发朗读，所以
we got her back to the table What's Your
我们让她回到餐桌旁，
Name by the way Chloe Chloe yeah you
顺便说一句，你叫什么名字，克洛伊克洛伊是的，你
must have one sibling is that right yeah
必须有一个兄弟姐妹，是的，是的，
you got another sibling no just one no
你还有另一个兄弟姐妹，不只是一个，不，
but I I want to say one sibling I keep
但我想说 我经常
seeing three of you so whether your mom
见到你们三个兄弟姐妹，所以你妈妈是否
would have lost a child but there was
会失去一个孩子，但
definitely three can you connect with
肯定有三个孩子，你能以
the name Steven in some way no I want to
某种方式与史蒂文这个名字联系起来吗？不，我
talk about pregnancy as well um I'm not
也想谈谈怀孕，嗯，我不会
going to say you've got a pregnancy
说你 “患有与怀孕
related condition but it's something
相关的病症，但
like endometriosis or does that make
类似于子宫内膜异位症，或者
sense to say would you understand being
说您是否理解接受
tested for it I haven't no no is it in
检查是否有意义？我没有，不，不是，
the family then yeah yeah but you're
是的，是的，是的，但您
worrying about it though aren't you yeah
担心它，但不是” 你是的，是的，好吧，
yeah okay they come from London uh no
他们来自伦敦，呃，不，
why do want to say Louise do you what's
为什么要说路易丝，你是什么，
your you got middle name yes not
你的中间名是，不
remember it for me okay you're going to
记得给我了，好吧，你要
look at some point about either starting
考虑一下要么
your own business or working for
自己创业，要么为公司工作
yourself who loves to make cakes me is
你自己喜欢做蛋糕，我是的，
it yeah like a you make cakes yeah
就像你做蛋糕是的，
actually yeah how would I
实际上是的，我怎么
know right so it's sting like a cake
知道是对的，所以它就像蛋糕生意一样刺痛，是的，在
business yeah thought like thought
before what you should did you feel like
你应该做什么之前想一想，你觉得
that hit on some truths yeah there wor
这击中了一些事实，是的，有沃
about the C thing because obviously
关于 C 的事情，因为显然
that's like what I've been thinking
这就像我一直在考虑的事情，
about maybe doing how do you explain
也许你会怎么解释，
because obviously there was some stuff
因为显然里面有一些东西，
within that like London for example you
比如伦敦，例如你
said no yeah what what about the things
说不，是的，
that on
那
right I mean you you're you're coming at
右边的事情呢，我的意思是你你。 你是
it from a skeptic point Point View how
从怀疑的角度来看待这个问题的吗？观点看看
many careers are there in the
世界上有多少职业
world uh you make cakes yes I do I want
呃你做蛋糕是的我愿意我
to do it as a business someone someone
想把它作为一个生意有人有人
will always latch onto something I'm
总是会抓住一些东西我
saying what I feel is a feeling and she
说的是我的感受 是一种感觉，她
has the option to say to me that's not
可以选择对我说，这不对劲，
right interesting okay well thank you
有趣，好吧，谢谢
thank you so much really appreciate
你，非常感谢，非常感谢，非常感谢，这
thank you so much it's not that I
并不是说我
inherently don't want to be a believer
本质上不想成为一个信徒，
you asked there so many things that in
你问了很多事情， 在
my head I'm like it's not surprising
我的脑海里，我觉得
that she felt latched onto one of those
她觉得自己被其中一件事所吸引，这并不奇怪，
things I don't think she latched onto
我不认为她被任何东西所吸引，
anything
cakes yeah but I was very direct would
蛋糕是的，但我很直接，
you say I was very direct in what I said
你会说我很直接吗？
you mentioning the cake business her
蛋糕生意，她
response to that seemed to be like
对此的反应似乎很
positive it feels therapeutic everyone
积极，感觉很有治疗作用，每个人
would take something different from
都会接受与
these type of things but that is the
这些类型的东西不同的东西，但这就是
whole point I love how much buildup
重点，我喜欢
there is for my reading tomorrow it's
明天的阅读有多少积累，它
going to be
会
like like you don't have to be a
像你一样。 不必是一个
believer it's not for me to a believer
信徒，这不适合我的信徒，
I'm 100% open to
我对
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[音乐]百分百开放，
that so you know I've spent a day with
所以你知道我已经和克里斯度过了一天，我
Chris at this point and I'd say I'm
想说我
still definitely a skeptic and I feel
仍然是一个怀疑论者 我
like there's a lot of what he does that
觉得他做了很多事情
I don't really understand you know is it
我不太明白你知道这是
magic you know or is it him doing some
魔法还是他在做某种
kind of secret techniques to get this
秘密技术来获取这些
information up to enlist a bit of help
信息以获得一些帮助
I'm uh I'm speaking to a man in a second
我呃 我马上要和一个
called Chris who uh looks into psychics
叫克里斯​​的人说话，他研究通灵
and paranormal kind of activities and
和超自然现象，并
figures out how they do what they do so
弄清楚他们是如何做他们所做的事情的，很
very nice to meet you and you there are
高兴见到你，你有
a couple of possibilities possibility
几种可能性，第
number one is that he's really psychic
一种可能性是 至少在某些时候，他真的很通灵。
at least some of the time C reading is a
C 阅读是一种
technique that can be used to convince
可以用来让
complete strangers that you know all
完全陌生的人相信你了解
about them there are certain kinds of
他们的一切的技巧，某些类型的
statements that often sounds as if
陈述通常听起来好像
they're saying something very kind of
他们在说一些
Deepa actually applied to everyone
迪帕实际应用过的东西 对每个人来说，
another part of cold reading would
冷读的另一部分将
involve inspired guests if I'm in in a
涉及受启发的客人，如果我在一个
room full of uh little old ladies who've
充满了失去丈夫的小老太太的房间里，
all lost their husbands I mean Albert
我的意思是阿尔伯特将
would be a good bet it's actually quite
是一个不错的选择，这实际上很
interesting cuz in one specific reading
有趣，因为在一次特定的阅读中
he said to a woman um you know I'm
他 对一个女人说，嗯，你知道我
getting the name I think an and then she
得到了我想的名字，然后她
said that's my mom or that's my grandma
说那是我妈妈或那是我奶奶是的，
Yeah if you practice it a lot you get
如果你经常练习，你就会非常
very very good at being able to pick up
非常擅长能够接受
on the feedback another thing that
反馈另一件事
psychics do a lot they ask a lot of
通灵者做了很多事情，他们问了很多
questions or they'll throw something out
问题，或者他们会抛出一些
that's kind of very vague and general
非常模糊和笼统的东西，
you know I'm getting getting a name
你知道我得到了一个
beginning with the letter D well why
以字母 D 开头的名字，为什么
just give us the name I was asking him
只给我们我问他的名字
this yesterday why are you not being
昨天为什么你
very specific about certain things and
对某些事情不是很具体，
it feels like a very useful convenience
感觉这是一个非常有用的便利，
a lot of the names they tend to be the
很多名字他们往往是
most standard British names it's kind of
最标准的英国名字，有点
like John Joseph Louise David Paul Gary
像约翰·约瑟夫·路易斯·大卫·保罗·加里，
do you think there's anything I can do
你认为我有什么吗？
today to to prove it or disprove it
今天可以证明或反驳它，
maybe think of a few questions in
也许可以提前想几个问题，这些
advance that are things that kind of as
问题是
far as you're aware only you would know
你所知道的，只有你自己才能
brilliant well I really appreciate it
清楚地知道，我真的很感激，非常感谢，
thanks so much byebye okay a few moments
好的，一会儿
later I had a worrying call from Chris
再见 我接到了克里斯打来的令人担忧的电话，
so we just got a call from Chris
所以我们刚刚接到克里斯的电话，
basically saying he's not uh he's not
基本上说他不太满意，呃，他对
entirely happy with uh how the filming's
拍摄
gone so far uh he doesn't want to be
到目前为止的进展不太满意，呃，他不想被
interrogated uh and yeah he's he's
审问，呃，是的，他正在
reconsidering everything so we just
重新考虑一切，所以我们 就在我们
waiting for him as we waited I chatted
等他的时候，我和
to Janine my producer do you think I'm
我的制作人 Janine 聊了聊，你认为我给人的印象
coming across across too hard I don't
太难了吗？我不
know I think Pro you're obviously a bit
知道，我认为专业人士，你显然是
more of a skeptic rather than kind of
一个怀疑论者，而
like a neutral trying to understand the
不是一个中立的尝试者。 为了理解这
thing if he could just kind of give me
件事，如果他能给我
some major proof I'd be like all right
一些重要的证据，我会说，
fair I do this you know I don't think
好吧，我这样做，你知道，我认为
I've ever met any psychics who I think
我从来没有遇到过任何我认为
like are just out to kind of con people
只是想搞事情的通灵者。
he's he's pissed off at us because he
他是个骗子，他对我们很生气，因为他
feels as though he's being interrogated
感觉自己正在被审问，
and that makes me think why are you
这让我想，
panicking if you believe what you're
如果你非常相信自己
doing so much well I guess the most
所做的事情，为什么还要惊慌呢？我猜与
people he interacts with are people who
他互动的大多数人都是
do believe him so he probably very
相信他的人 所以他可能
rarely interacts with people like you
很少与像你这样的人互动
finally Chris called to say we could
最后克里斯打电话说我们可以
come in do my reading okay so I'm just
进来读书好吗所以我
about to get my
正要
reading and I've printed out these bad
读书并且我已经打印了这些坏
boys so this is my Iranian Grandma this
男孩所以这是我的伊朗奶奶这
is my British Grandma um there's some
是 我的英国奶奶嗯，有一些
very specific facts that if he gets
非常具体的事实，如果他明白了
those facts then perhaps my mind will
这些事实，那么也许我的想法会
change for good so let's see oh God look
永远改变，所以让我们看看哦上帝看看那只
at the black cat just staring at us
黑猫只是盯着我们
hello how you doing all good thank you
你好你做得很好非常感谢
so much how you doing nice to see you
你做得怎么样 很高兴再次见到你，闻起来很
again smells delicious what does sage do
美味，圣人又做了什么，
again it's for like bad energy
就像清理不良能量一样，
clearings okay yeah we've been on some
是的，今天我们和天使通了一些
calls with
电话，
angels today just doing
只是做了
some energy some wit some witchy spells
一些能量，一些机智，一些巫术咒语，
witchy spells okay who are the spells
巫术咒语，好吧，谁是咒语，
on I had a funny feeling I was the bad
我有一个 有趣的感觉，我是
energy they were trying to get rid of
他们试图摆脱
you do you should do it like in your own
你的坏能量，你应该像在自己
home yeah I I I quite like
家里一样做吗是的我我我很喜欢
Siege are we
围攻我们
ready yeah
准备好了是的
how you feeling Chris fine I feel like
你感觉怎么样克里斯很好我觉得
we're both
我们都很
nervous CU we've built up to it so much
紧张CU我们' 已经积累了这么多，
no I think you're probably nervous I'm
不，我想你可能很紧张，我
all right just nervous I'm definitely
没事，只是紧张，我肯定很
nervous I guess I'm nervous now because
紧张，我想我现在很紧张，因为
I want this to work mhm I'm just going
我想让这个发挥作用，嗯，我只是
to doot a few things down of kind of
要做一些 事情
what comes to me and then I'll look at
会发生在我身上，然后我会看
the photo so the first thing I want to
照片，所以我想问你的第一件事
ask you
is
是，
you can look at this before what's your
你可以先看一下这张照片，然后你
mom's
妈妈叫什么
name
名字，
Jane yeah but I guess that that's the
简，是的，但我想这就是那种
type of thing that I suppose that one's
类型的事情 我想这
harder because you could just find that
更难，因为你可以
on Instagram or something I'm not saying
在 Instagram 或其他东西上找到它，我不是说
you have I'm just saying like my fa my
你有我只是说像我的 fa 我
mom's on my Facebook and all that so I
妈妈在我的 Facebook 上等等，所以我
guess it's harder for me
想
to you know okay fine okay if you feel
你知道对我来说更难，好吧好吧 好吧，如果你感觉
like that fine it's it's not that I'm
很好，那不是我
trying to say you're that's okay but I'm
想说你很好，但我是，
I'm not here proving this to you I'm
我不是在这里向你证明这一点，我只是
telling you what I feel the first want
告诉你我觉得第一个想
to talk about is Jane with the mom
谈的是 简和妈妈
connection M um and then there's a
有联系，妈妈，还有一个
Michael that to me feels like you've got
迈克尔，对我来说，你觉得你有
quite a heavily male family I don't if
一个男性人口较多的家庭，但如果
you've got a lot of boys so that that's
你有很多男孩，那我就不这么认为了，那
not
right okay so tell me then
好吧，所以告诉我
siblings but I guess so how does it work
兄弟姐妹们 但我想它是如何运作的
I guess why do I tell you cuz you're
我想我为什么要告诉你因为你
telling me I'm not correct so if I'm not
告诉我我不正确所以如果我不
correct you can explain I have so it's
正确你可以解释我有所以这是
50/50 boys girls okay so who is Michael
50/50 男孩女孩好吧所以谁是迈克尔
Michael's my brother right okay I feel
迈克尔是我的兄弟，好吧，我觉得
that your mom has some health issues and
你妈妈有一些健康问题，
she's not talking about it your mom is
她没有谈论它，你妈妈已经
married must be to your
结婚了，一定和你
dad fine and if I look at you my I feel
爸爸很好，如果我看着你，我觉得
like I would look at your dad I would
我会看着你爸爸，我会
look at you and I look at your dad like
看着 你和我看着你爸爸的
across the
eyes do you mean I look like my dad in
眼神你是说我的眼神像我爸爸吗
eyes I actually don't know I don't know
我其实不知道我不知道
okay fine don't worry there is something
好吧好吧别担心心里有东西我
here around the heart I don't want to
不知道 想要
talk about a heart issue but there's a
谈论心脏问题，但
heavy thing here around the heart I
心脏周围有一个沉重的东西，我
don't know okay would you know if that
不知道，好吧，你知道这是否
comes in the
来自
family like they've got heart problems
家庭，就像他们有心脏问题一样，
or that's through the
或者是通过
family um I don't know I actually don't
家庭，嗯，我不知道我 实际上
know I don't know I I don't think so not
我不知道我不知道我不这么认为
as far as I can tell no one's had any
据我所知没有人有任何
heart
心脏
problems cuz that I suppose that that's
问题因为我认为这令人
worrying isn't it like the idea that
担忧不是就像
they could have heart problems that
他们可能有心脏问题的想法一样
feels like no but it's acknowleding
感觉像是不，但它现在承认了
something now it's not a prediction yeah
一些事情，这不是一个预测，是的，不，
no there's not I don't think so as far
没有，
as I can tell okay well let's have a
据我所知，没有，好吧，让我们
look at this
看看这张
picture I'm looking at your your
照片，我正在看着你的
grandmother I feel that there's a sense
祖母，我觉得有一个
of she was not able to say what she
感觉她无法说出她
wanted to say who has got the name Sue
想说的话谁叫苏
or Susan that's alive like around maybe
或苏珊，还活着，就像周围的人一样，也许
could be like an
可能像一位
aunt
阿姨，
there's no se Susan I feel like
没有苏珊，我觉得
you're um there's there's a very close
你是，嗯，
connection with your dad but there is
与你有非常密切的联系 爸爸，但
like this there's this
就像这样，有这种
disconnect because she makes me feel as
脱节，因为她让我觉得
so would your dad be one of
你爸爸会是
three no so why she talk to me about
三个人之一吗，所以为什么她跟我说要
having three or they're being three of
生三个人，或者他们是我们三个人，
us I don't know how how how is best for
我不知道怎么样，怎么样
me to respond when I don't know the
当我不知道答案时，我最好做出回应，
answer but you can say you don't know
但你可以说你不知道，
that's okay
没关系，
no I'm stop stopping I'm you can turn it
不，我不再停下来，你可以关掉它，
off sorry you can turn it off how come
抱歉，你可以关掉它，怎么
just turn it off I'm I'm just like I
关掉它 我是，我就像我
can't
不能，
um yeah no I'm going to have a I'm no
嗯，是的，不，我要读一个，我不，我
I'm
fine I don't feel like I want to carry
很好，我不想继续
the reading I'm sorry
阅读，很抱歉，
okay how come
好吧，我怎么了
I just don't I don't I don't know if
只是不，我不，我不知道
you're not being truthful with me I'm
你是否对我诚实，我真的
genuinely being truthful I promise you
很诚实，我向你保证，
okay I promise you with my heart you
好吧，我发自内心地向你保证，你
know there's not really any reason for
知道我没有任何理由去
me to try and lie about
尝试和 撒谎
it you know I suppose to tell you the
你知道我想告诉你
truth my dad's one of about can you turn
真相我爸爸是其中之一，你能把
it off please he's one of about 16
它关掉吗，他是大约16个
kids um can you turn the camera off
孩子之一，嗯，你能把相机关掉吗，
please it's okay I just off yeah so I've
没关系，我刚刚关掉了，是的，所以我
just been just being kicked out of
只是 被踢出
Chris's
克里斯的
um
嗯，
yeah that ended probably in the worst
是的，这可能以最糟糕的
possible way it just felt like he
方式结束，感觉就像他
thought he had been rumbled and he was
以为自己受到了隆隆声，他正在
regretting it and then he's you know
后悔，然后他就是你知道的，
demanding that we give him the footage
要求我们给他录像，
uh I mean I feel bad
嗯，我的意思是我感觉很糟糕，
because he's you know been welcoming to
因为他 你知道我们已经欢迎了
us for a couple of days but it's just
几天，但
ended in the worst possible way in the
在我和克里斯一起度过的时间里，一切都以最糟糕的方式结束了，
time I'd spent with Chris I'd seen
我亲眼目睹了
firsthand how therapeutic and comforting
people found his readings but for me I
人们如何找到他的读物来治疗和安慰，但对我来说，
sadly can't get on board with it I would
遗憾的是我不能 我
have liked to believe all this was true
很愿意相信这一切都是真的，
but my reading was filled with a couple
但我的读物充满了一些
of facts you could find on the internet
你可以在互联网上找到的事实，
and nothing correct about my grandma's
而关于我祖母的历史没有任何正确的内容，
history so who are these people he's
所以他
talking to in the afterlife and why are
在来世与这些人交谈的人是谁？ 为什么
they so terrible at giving them
他们在向他们提供信息方面如此糟糕
information